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教育局網上教材錯漏百出, 誤人子弟!!!

《粵語流行曲導論》楊漢倫博士著

http://www.edb.gov.hk/FileManage ... 0pop%20songs%20.pdf

呢個博士正一讀屎片, 《啼笑姻緣》梗係唔係第一首電視劇主題曲啦, 《鱷魚淚》係霑叔作曲, 唔係黎小田,《勇敢的中國人》係娛樂唱片公司發行,《萬里長城永不倒》正確歌名係《大俠霍元甲》,
EMI 發行, 唔關永恆事, 《榴槤飄香》係印尼民歌 Impian Semalam 改篇, 唔係王粵生作曲, 原唱係林鳳,「教育局」應該改名叫「誤人子弟局」!!!
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http://mus.hkbu.edu.hk/yang.html

Prof. Hon-Lun Helan Yang
Professor
Music History

General Concentration Coordinator

Hon-Lun Helan Yang is a Professor of Music at Hong Kong Baptist University. Yang’s research interests are cross-cultural, specializing in nineteenth-century American music and contemporary Chinese music both ‘serious’ and ‘popular’ in style and appeal. She is the author of over 30 articles that appeared in journals such as International Review of Aesthetics and Sociology of Music (2011), Asian Music (2010), Music and Politics (2007), CHIME (2005), American Music (2003), and BLOK (2003) and book chapters as in Music, Power, and Politics (Routledge, 2005), Music, Meaning & Media (Hakapaino, Helsinki, 2006), Music and Censorship (Oxford University, forthcoming), Music and Protest in 1968 (Cambridge University Press, forthcoming), Music and Politics (Ashgate, forthcoming). She is currently working on a book about three contemporary Chinese composers: Zhu Jian’er, Luo Zhongrong, and Wang Xilin as well as co-editing with Michael Saffle on a volume entitled East-West Musical Encounters: Representation, Reception, and Power Politics in Sino-Western Musical Relations.

http://www.hkcg.org/vocalsym/02/14.html#

http://www.annualquiz.org/message/helen_yang


楊漢倫博士




  • 香港浸會大學音樂系署理系主任

1998楊漢倫博士年畢業於美國聖路易市華盛頓大學,主修西方歷史音樂學。自98年至今,任教香港浸會大學,現職副教授。教授本科生外,也擔任研究生指導。在十年教學期間,得過為數不少的科研經費。研究範圍包括美國十九世紀音樂、中國近現代和當代音樂、及香港流行音樂。如近期的一個科研項目,便和中央音 樂學院、香港中文大學、香港大學的學者合作,研究大陸的音樂家對香港音樂發展的貢獻。楊的著作以英文為主,多在國外發表,如在期刊《美國音樂》、《磬》、 《二十一世紀》等,其他的著作則在歐美各大出版社如
Routledge、Barenreiter-Verlag 的結集中出版。2008年1月,楊曾到英國 西部大學(University of the West of England)和謝菲爾德大學(University of Sheffield)演講,內容有關三、四十年代白俄音樂家在上海的音樂生活,及對「女子十二樂坊」這一組合和性別解構的解讀。

浪費公帑!!!
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原帖由 Kendama 於 23-7-2012 21:43 發表 專業能力與職位不相稱,兼且誤導學生、大眾 ...建議向教局及浸大反映 ...


今朝我已經打咗電話去教育局剷到佢地飛起, 佢地話會抽起篇文, 遲 D 有人覆我。

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Louis Lee 君:

多謝閣下指出學與教材料《粵語流行曲導論》資料有錯誤的地方,本組已將閣下意見轉達作者,以作詳細的檢視。現將有關學與教材料從本組網頁抽起,稍後會將經修訂後的版本再上載於本組網頁內。

再次多謝閣下的寶貴的意見及對音樂教育的關注。如有任何查詢,請致電3698 3535 與本人聯絡。

教育局藝術教育組
譚宏標


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譚 Sir,

你地 D 學與教材料真係衰到貼地, 廣東歌之後又輪到貓王:

3.3 “It’s Now or Never”(1960)

Some of Elvis’s predecessors and contemporaries—including Mario Lanza,
Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra—made their reputations throughout the 1940s, 1950s,
and early 1960s singing passionate Italian love songs. They sang these songs in the
full-throated vocal style known as bel canto (beautiful singing). Much nineteenth- and
early twentieth-century opera, including the works of Bellini, Donizetti, and Verdi,
employs this style; a famous example of bel canto melody is “Nessun dorma” (None
shall sleep) from Puccini’s Turandot. Today most people think of Elvis as a rock-‘n’-
roller, or possibly as a movie star, but “It’s Now or Never”, recorded shortly after he
left the army, demonstrates his ability to sing beautifully and even ‘classically’ in an
arrangement of the Neapolitan melody “O sole mio” (O Lonely Me’).

O sole mio 係「我的太陽」, 唔係「寂寞的我」, 凡係對聲樂有少少認識嘅都唔會唔識呢首歌, 真係唔明點解你地搵埋晒 D 植物人嚟寫教材, 香港學生真係俾你地班廢柴害死!!!!

Louis Lee
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原帖由 ar_woo 於 25-7-2012 02:01 發表   條女吾掂


寫貓王條鬼一樣唔掂, 連 O Sole Mio 都唔知點解嘅佢竟然係大名鼎鼎嘅史丹福大學博士:

http://www.rc.vt.edu/facstaff/Saffle.html

Saffle

Ph.D. in Musicology and Humanities at Stanford University, 1977.

Michael Saffle is professor in the Department of Religion and Culture at Virginia Tech. He has published articles and reviews in the Journal of the American Musicological Society, Acta Musicologica, Notes, the Programmhefte of Bayreuth’s Wagner Festival, Music & Letters, and the Leonardo Music Journal as well as the International Dictionary of Black Composers and other reference works. His books include Franz Liszt: A Guide to Research, revised and republished by Routledge in 2004 and again in 2009; and he served as editor for American biographical entries on behalf of the German music encyclopedia, Die Musik in Geschichte und Gegenwart (Kassel: Bärenreiter, 1994-2008). Other of his publications deal with such issues as emerging images of Europe in contemporary American film and television, the transformation of Beijing as a postmodern megacity since ‘Reform and Opening’ began in 1978, and the Chinese pop group 12 Girls Band.


As a teacher, Saffle has three times won Virginia Tech’s Certificate of Teaching Excellence; and in 2007 he received the William E. Wine Award from Tech’s Academy of Teaching Excellence.


As a scholar, he has held fellowships from the Fulbright and Humboldt Foundations as well as the American Philosophical Society. In 2000-2001 he served as Bicentennial Fulbright Distinguished Professor of American Studies at the University of Helsinki. During Spring 2008, he had the Au Yeung King Fong Research Fellowship at Hong Kong Baptist University, and during Spring 2009 he and his wife Sue taught at VT’s ‘European campus’ in Riva San Vitale, Switzerland.


An old “mountain” house he and his wife restored won a local preservation award in 1989 and was named to the National Register of Historic Places in 1992.


In 2006, on his sixtieth birthday, Professor Saffle was honored with a ‘Festschrift’ published as an issue of the cultural-studies ejournal Spaces of Identity  [Volume 6, No. 3 (3 December 2006)].


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Louis Lee 先生,

多謝你的意見,本組會細閱有關內容,並予以修正。 再一次多謝閣下的指正。

教育局藝術教育組
譚宏標
3698 3535


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譚 Sir,

多謝你回覆, 關於 Elvis Presley 教材, 尚有以下錯誤:


1. 〝Although Loving You (1957), Jailhouse Rock (1957), and Kid Creole (1958)
earned money for their producers, the songs Elvis recorded for their soundtracks failed
to achieve critical acclaim.〞
(p.6)

係 King Creole, 唔係 Kid, 俾晒成套片你睇:


2.〝Elvis was raised on gospel music and made a name for himself as a gospel
performer. In spite of this, his two albums of gospel music, although artistically
successful, were recorded late in his career and never achieved the popularity of his
rock-‘n’-roll hits. The deep feeling and stylistic freedom of gospel singing, however,
are what make songs such as “Heartbreak Hotel” so powerful.
After his career was well underway, Elvis covered a few ‘classic’ gospel
numbers. Perhaps the best known and most successful of these songs is “Crying in the
Chapel”. Originally recorded in the early 1950s by Sonny Till and the Orioles, a Black
gospel ensemble
, “Crying in the Chapel” combines religious faith with the sadness of
everyday life.〞(p.18)

“Crying in the Chapel” 原唱係 Darrell Glenn, 佢老豆 Artie Glenn 作曲:

3.〝 “Are You Lonesome Tonight?” was originally recorded in 1960. In
the live-performance version, however—recorded in 1977, shortly before his death,
and preserved on Elvis: The King (disk 2, track 9)—Elvis breaks into laughter midway
through the song. Unable to stop laughing, he transforms a sad country-western
number into a stand-up comedy routine.
His inability to stop laughing is typical of the
last few, less-successful years of his performing career.〞(p.18)

“Are You Lonesome Tonight?” laughing version 係 1969 年 8 月 26 日 Las Vegas 演唱會錄音, 唔係 1977:

麻煩你話俾 Prof. Michael Saffle 知 (我肯定佢一定唔知), Are You Lonesome Tonight? 係 20 年代老歌, 原唱係 Henry Burr, 1927 年錄音:

4.〝Elvis believed in God, gave generously to many causes,
and married his childhood sweetheart.〞(p.23)

老作!!! 貓王唯一妻子係 Priscilla (1967 年結婚, 1973 年離婚)。

史丹福大學博士竟然寫埋 D 咁嘅垃圾文章, 真係慘不忍睹!!!

唔該即刻抽起佢, 免再誤人子弟!!!

Louis Lee

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Louis Lee先生,

閣下高見,心感佩服。本組會詳加覆核,並請專家加以校對,屆時再請閣下指正。多謝閣下對音樂教育的支持。

教育局藝術教育組
譚宏標
3698 3535

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譚 Sir,

再次多謝你回覆,「詳加覆核,並請專家加以校對」應該係教材放上網之前就要做好, 唔係等到錯誤資訊荼毒咗千萬學生之後至嚟補鑊, 希望貴局謹記今次教訓, 為香港未來主人翁著想, 以後做事務必認真謹慎。兩篇問題教材可能只係冰山一角, 你地應該將所有已發表或即將發表之教材聘請專家作深入、全面校對, 確保資料無誤。

Louis Lee

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譚 Sir,

資料更正, Are You Lonesome Tonight? 最早錄音應該係 Charles Hart, 1927 年 5 月 9 日, 比 Henry Burr 版 (1927 年 8 月 5 日) 仲要早接近 3 個月:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFHdKxKvk7E&hd=1

治學精神, 最重要係細心考證, 知錯即改, 互勉之。

Louis Lee
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譚 Sir,

再一次資料更正,《榴槤飄香》真正原唱並非林鳳, 而係前商台廣播員陳慧玲(已故粵曲、粵劇編寫家之第二任妻子/[陳麗雲]女士妹妹),幕後為林鳳代唱:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wjueXH7MG4&hd=1


Louis Lee
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佢地已經抽起有問題嘅文章, 顯示為「更新中」, 唔可以 click icon 下載:

http://www.edb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeID=7375&langno=2


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引用:
原帖由 actionkamen 於 26-7-2012 13:37 發表 今日東方報導http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20120726/00176_014.html網上教材多錯漏 教局馬虎教育局資助編寫的教材又出問題,該局邀香港浸會大學音樂系教授楊漢倫編寫的網上教材《粵語流行曲導論》,被指當中 ...


去信東方報料嘅正是在下!!!

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http://www.worldjournal.com/view ... BA?instance=hk_bull


教育局網上教材 錯誤百出

香港新聞組香港26日電

教育局資助編寫的教材又出問題,該局邀香港浸會大學音樂系教授楊漢倫編寫的網上教材《粵語流行曲導論》,被指當中有關粵語流行曲歷史的部分資料出錯,質疑官員處事馬虎苟且,懶為教材內容校對。教育局回應指,已將各方意見轉交作者,並把有關教材從網頁抽起。

教育局2009年出版的網上教材《粵語流行曲導論》,由楊漢倫博士著作,內容涉及粵語流行曲歷史、音樂旋律等。不過,部分內容被音樂發燒友網民揭發出錯,如教材提到歌曲《鱷魚淚》是由音樂人黎小田填寫,但事實是由黃霑填寫;又將日劇《綠水英雌》誤植為《綠水英姿》。


次文化堂社長彭志銘指該網民的指控大多正確,他認為由學者撰寫的教材具權威性,若未經查核便用作教材,將禍延下一代。


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呢鑊嘢其實仲有下聞, 今朝佢地又抽起兩個用嚟培訓音樂老師嘅 Power Point 教材, 事關尋晚凌晨我又 send email 俾譚 Sir:

譚 Sir,

貴局網上流行曲教材認真攞命, 又一件粗枝大葉, 左抄右襲, 不加求證嘅垃圾:

http://www.edb.gov.hk/index.aspx?langno=2&nodeID=7479


新高中音樂科課程知識增益 - 流行音樂入門 (重辦)


講義 2


〝- Chicago Blues(1940s/50s): use of amplification, harmonica tremolos, heavy and rough vocal timbre, rhythmic guitar, bass, drums & piano

- Developed into Rhythm and Blues in 1950s〞(p.14)

Rhythm and Blues (R&B) 呢個 term 係 1948 年由 Billboard 雜誌嘅 Jerry Wexler 發明, 用以稱呼黑人流行音樂, 取代 race music 舊稱, Billboard 由 1949 至 1963 年有 Rhythm and Blues Chart。

Bill Haley 幾時做咗 Father of Rock 'n' Roll ??? (p.17)

Rock Around the Clock 係由佢唱紅, 但係原唱唔係佢, 而係 Sonny Dae & The Knights (Youtube 標題誤作 The Night) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STGIzbMOunY&hd=1

比 Rock Around the Clock 更早而可以界定為 Rock 'n' Roll 嘅歌曲多的是, 1949 年就有由 Erline Harris 嘅 "Rock And Roll Blues":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8XQoh6u1ME&hd=1

亦係 1949 年, Jimmy Preston 原唱, 後來亦由 Bill Haley 翻唱嘅 Rock the Joint 亦係典型例子之一:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9l4HmN3YAQ&hd=1

再早 D 有 Louis Jordan & The Tympany Five 嘅 Choo Choo Ch'Boogie (1946):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h74YnEAymMw&hd=1

甚至某些二、三年代嘅作品已經可以發現 Rock 'n' Roll 嘅「根」, 例如:

Joe Turner and Pete Johnson - Roll 'Em Pete (1938)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnO-Wp4BZMg&hd=1


Shake That Thing - PaPa Charlie Jacson 1925 (Original Version)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ln8FrAPduU&hd=1

Shake That Thing - Abe Lyman Orch 1926 (Cover Version)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doG-ADIEeN4&hd=1

Pinetop's Boogie Woogie - Pinetop Smith 1928

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flLqah0jB4s&hd=1

Rock 'n' Roll 音樂係揉合多種音樂元素經長時間演化而成嘅風格, 並唔係由某一位 father 創造出嚟。

Blues 只係流行音樂嘅其中一個根, 絕對唔係全部, Dr. Man 對 pop music 嘅認知實在太貧乏!!!


Louis Lee

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Louis Lee 先生,

多謝你的意見,會將閣下意見轉達作者,並作跟進。

教育局藝術教育組
譚宏標


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楊漢倫博士 CV

http://mus.hkbu.edu.hk/CV/CV_Yang%202012.pdf

I. Academic and Professional Qualifications

Washington University in St. Louis 1998 Ph. D. Musicology

-- Thesis: A Study of the Overtures and Symphonic Poems by American Composers of the Second New England School

University of Texas at Austin 1989 M. M. Musicology

-- Thesis: From Overture to Symphonic Poem: Richard Strauss’s Symphonic Poem Macbeth

Chinese University of Hong Kong 1985 B. A. Music

仲以為佢係竹升妹, 原來係香港, 仲要係 1985 年中文大學畢業, 咁嘅年紀, 老餅文化竟然如此貧乏!!!
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《粵語歌曲解讀》蛻變中的香港聲音 - 楊漢倫、余少華著

過而能改, 接受批評, 值得尊敬!

鳴謝: Ms Cat Chan 將此書之前言與鳴謝上載於
Uxxxxx 討論區。






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楊教授知錯能改, 但係教育局班植物人就執迷不悔, 嗰篇錯到離譜嘅貓王論文就繼續供人下載:

http://www.edb.gov.hk/attachment ... Elvis%20Presley.pdf
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