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§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 8-2-2008 09:53

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§@ªÌ: Áo¬¥¦hÂĤñ    ®É¶¡: 8-2-2008 15:40

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§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 9-2-2008 12:59

­º¥ý§ó¥¿¤@¤U. Daylight balance «Y5600k. ¦pªG7000k ´N¦n'ÂÅ'. BMW, M.Benz 嘅 Xenon ÀY¿O³£«Y 5000k¥H¤U.

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§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 9-2-2008 13:30

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§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 9-2-2008 14:13

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§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 00:16

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§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 02:22

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§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 02:27

MF or AF?

§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 02:29

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I sold it to my sister's friend long time ago (25 years ago), don't remember, and there is another brand: rodxxxx, can't remember.
§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 02:33

The old  TLR not try. But the new electronic auto focus 6008 I have 'luck' to try some shots. Very disappoint. 

§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 02:57

why you are very disppointed ?
§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 03:31

Very slow auto focus. Picture result not as good as the old lens. ¥Ñ©ó«Y¹q¤l¾÷. §è¹q¶W«l. ­«·|¶¡¤¤¦º¾÷.

§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 03:37

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tradition one has better focus but need professional skill to do so especially with "R" brand

 


§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:10

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§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:12

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§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:17

«¢«¢. §ÚÄÁ·N'½m'¨®. §Ú揸¤âªi¨®.

§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:19

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What kind of the car you have ?

 


§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:26

Jetta 1.8t

§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:29

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is that fwd or 3wd or front wheeol drive ?

 


§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:34

http://www.canadiandriver.com/testdrives/02jetta1pt8t.htm

§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:39

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Nice car...How old is yours ?
§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:50

2005

§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 04:57

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a new car, but have you start to save the money for next car ?
§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 05:03

I play leasing. for tax purpose.

§@ªÌ: ¬B¹ê¤°²ß¯¶¬µ¶°    ®É¶¡: 10-2-2008 05:12

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good plan...
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§@ªÌ: ray375    ®É¶¡: 14-2-2008 10:34

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