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原帖由 monoakira 於 25-6-2007 16:51 發表城寨?
原帖由 monoakira 於 25-6-2007 16:51 發表
九龍城寨無去過~
認識城寨都係小學"社會"書知道~
之後再睇淚眼殺星先覺得城寨好得雜
我一次也沒到過, 現想起有點可惜......
!!
很入去影點相.........
不知有無出過攝影集呢
??
你們有否留意, 日本仔很喜歡用九龍城寨作動畫及漫畫場景!!
有關九龍城寨的一些Links:
http://app1.rthk.org.hk/special/bookcrossing/book.php?bid=205
http://blog.pixnet.net/DRNG/post/176593
http://vdedu.mocasting.com/p/39051
[ 本帖最後由 East 於 26-6-2007 08:29 編輯 ]
小弟新來的...多多指教!
細個時我亞叔全0係城寨, 小弟去過佢屋企幾次, 印象唔係太深刻!
記得果時一定係要熟人帶至敢入去, 裡面九曲十三彎又黑麻麻, 真係成個迷宮咁! 細個入去真係好驚gar, 不過上幾層樓梯後就好光猛.
不過其實果度都唔係講到咁恐怖, 人地見你生面口但個樣正正常常都唔會無端端攪你0既...
原帖由 aeug 於 10-1-2008 00:57 發表
不過你都講得好恐佈咁...
個樣唔正常就比人攪???
我想問下呢...
九龍城寨而家仲向唔向度呀???
原帖由 聰洛多薩比 於 10-1-2008 11:34 發表
97回歸前已拆,已經剩返一度門,已变了一個紀念公園了!
原帖由 999 於 10-1-2008 15:18 發表
我見到好似一個圍城咁...
真係自成一國...
其實如果唔係"寸寸貢"或鬼鬼祟祟, 裡面d人都唔會無端端攪你, 咁間唔中實有d"扮哂野"0既人盤下你d街外人, 咁禮貌d答返佢入去探親戚就無事...唔係真係咁易會溶左個人0既!
不過以前城寨多新移民同三教九流0既人出入, 環境衛生好差
!
原帖由 aeug 於 10-1-2008 22:04 發表
嘩...
咁危險???
咁理論上應該要用軍隊剷平佢就差唔多...
原帖由 bulldog 於 5-2-2008 19:51 發表
哦...
睇黎九龍城寨都幾品流複雜架喎...
以前亞媽帶過我去睇牙, 前後入過去4~5次都啦,記得有一次係年初三,
陪亞媽補牙,個牙醫間鋪都幾入, 沿途左穿右插, 去到, 亞媽補牙我就四維睇,
有人用利是錢玩魚蝦蟹,士多有炮竹買,又有車仔麵,其實幾多野睇.
好耐之前同班義工朋友仔入過去探險，太似迷宮了.....
只記得有條咩龍津大道，好似巷仔咁窄，廟前的天井地下放左一尊古砲，感覺好似rpg遊戲的古墓迷城。
至於俾人盤....記得就無嘞，但係好多唔係咁友善的眼光望望下就真，佢地好奇掛？
[ 本帖最後由 Athena 於 7-3-2008 13:41 編輯 ]中學時係九龍城番學 , 有同學住係城寨 ,
去探過佢一次 , 但係要跟住佢至識行 ,
城寨外圍好多無牌牙醫就大家都知啦 !
但寨內環境昏暗 , d路真係左穿右插 , 牆邊掛住好多凌亂電線 ,
又會不時見到類似吸毒人物靠住牆角 ,
而且生面口出現實會俾人注視 , 室內呢就算係日頭都要開燈 ....
仲且有門牌地址都好難搵既 , 一定係要人帶出帶入至得 !
以前城寨是三不管，咁d水、電、電話及排污點搞呢？
原帖由 Potato 於 9-3-2008 14:10 發表
三不管大指治安,水、電、電話應話都有,但有說當時仍有"倒夜香"的!
原帖由 任因玖 於 12-3-2008 10:11 發表
已改建成一個紀念公園了!
原帖由 999 於 12-3-2008 11:08 發表
原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 12-3-2008 13:09 發表
城寨紀念公園就是紀念城寨哦！
70年代-80年代
城寨諗到既都有,諗唔到都有
我有個大年紀d既朋友,佢以前係城寨播小電影,好好生意,錢都收唔切
佢話一部2手放映機,三套西片就開檔.
佢同我講左好多好多城寨既事...........
原帖由 akaichoi 於 14-3-2008 12:34 發表
akaichoi兄,還有什麼鮮為人知的事情呢?謝謝分享!
原帖由 999 於 14-3-2008 12:36 發表
因為我朋友播4級片,會令到好多觀眾慶合合,所以再同妓女掛勾....
其次就係城寨內有大檔,粉檔,武器庫,軍火庫,無上裝表演,字花.........
基本上以前犯左事,走入城寨,警察未必夠膽入來
城寨佢自己有自己既法律,如果唔係死左人,或者警察要交人,根本無人會理城寨死活
原帖由 akaichoi 於 14-3-2008 13:10 發表因為我朋友播4級片,會令到好多觀眾慶合合,所以再同妓女掛勾.... 其次就係城寨內有大檔,粉檔,武器庫,軍火庫,無上裝表演,字花......... 基本上以前犯左事,走入城寨,警察未必夠膽入來 ...
城中有國,早巳一國兩制了!!!
九龍城寨，位置大約是今天的九龍寨城公園一帶。古時曾有中國軍隊駐守。本來九龍城寨是有城牆圍著的，但後來日本人佔領香港時，為了擴建啟德機場作軍事用途，就把圍牆拆掉以為擴建的材料。
九龍城是香港歷史上一個很特別的地方。話說滿清政府先後割讓了香港島和南九龍之後，在英人的帝國主意威嚇下，便避迫把北九龍借給英國人，但當中土地並不包括九龍城寨的，清廷理應對九龍城寨持有管治權，不久清廷在城寨曾派駐兵，引起英國人不滿，所以發兵侵佔城寨，軟弱的清廷為有把官員撤走，但九龍城卻成了「三不管」的形勢。所謂「三不管」是指中國政府、英國政府和港英政府都沒有對此存有政治敏感的地方作管治。直到了一九八七年，中英雙方才達成協議，決定清拆九龍城寨，並興建了今天的九龍寨城公園，以作記念，公園內還保留了當年的衙門、大炮和一些文物。
原帖由 999 於 14-3-2008 23:05 發表
原來係咁,謝~~~~~
原帖由 akaichoi 於 14-3-2008 13:10 發表
其實警察點解唔敢入去?
原帖由 任因玖 於 26-3-2008 23:33 發表
當年警察,消防.操守同素質無依家咁好.
有事報警,警察入來都未必理,分分點睇住搶或者搶埋一份....
香港60年代,真係好黑暗
究竟佢係警察定係賊?
原帖由 akaichoi 於 27-3-2008 10:23 發表
以前聽d老人家講...
警察就係有牌流氓...
所以後來先有廉政...
到了1984年，中英兩國簽訂《中英聯合聲明》處理香港問題，1987年兩國共同決定清拆寨城，遷徙居民。九龍寨城在1993年清拆前，曾經讓藝人成龍拍攝《重案組》電影，並容許一群日本探索家以一星期時間描繪寨城地圖。
有指九龍寨城在拆毀之前有50,000多名居民；以寨城面積0.026平方公里推算，城寨人口密度為每平方公里190萬人，是全世界人口最密集的地方。ffice
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九龍寨城在1993年清拆後，香港政府將原址改建為公園。原來計劃名為「九龍城寨公園」，但清拆期間經老居民指引，發現了一些古代文物，包括：兩塊寨城南門（即舊日寨城的正門）原址出土的花崗岩石額，刻有「南門」及「九龍寨城」字樣；寨城城牆殘存的牆基、東南兩門的牆基、一條沿寨城內牆建築的排水溝及旁邊的石板街。第二次世界大戰期間，民眾為免石額被日軍破壞，將之拆下埋於寨城內泥土中。政府遂將公園改名為九龍寨城公園，這些文物都安放於「南門懷古」景區。昔日三進四廂的衙門「大鵬協府」，則在修復和重建後成為展館，陳列了與寨城歷史有關的石碑(包括張玉堂拳書「墨緣」、「壽」字及載有衙門士兵出差配餉開支紀錄的光緒十二年《刊刻會議》)、寨城的歷史圖片等。
整個公園以江南園林規格建造，分為春、夏、秋、冬四季，共八個不同景區。除展示寨城文物的「南門懷古」外，另有景點如邀山樓、六藝臺、歸壁石、童樂苑、敬惜字紙亭等。廣蔭庭則擺放嶺南派四季盆栽，並有一幅以啤酒樽、碗、碟碎片和剩餘建園材料砌成的「五福壽鶴圖」。
九龍寨城公園與毗鄰的賈炳達道公園相連，形成面積龐大的公眾休憩地方。
原帖由 999 於 27-3-2008 18:19 發表
哦...而家城寨已經成為歷史...
如果有個咁既自成一國...
做土皇帝都幾好架...
原帖由 聰洛多薩比 於 28-3-2008 15:57 發表
原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 28-3-2008 23:05 發表
乜野黎架???
無聽過呀...
現今紀念公園一景
昔日光景
昔日居民生活
原帖由 聰洛多薩比 於 29-3-2008 01:38 發表
原帖由 拾實什習窄炸集 於 29-3-2008 13:24 發表
有無圖睇下呀???
原帖由 999 於 25-6-2007 16:38 發表
Bro 999,
When I was a primary school student, I had several classmates and some relatives who lived in Kowloon Wall City. Besides that I lived nearby Kowloon Wall City and so I quite often went there to play with my friends.
Firstly, I recalled that my uncle told me that the water supply was pumped from a well and the smell of the boiled water (already cooled down) was so bad that I could not tolerate to drink. However, my uncle told me that it was the characteristic of Kowloon Wall City., 
Secondly, many hawkers sold different kinds of food, like curried fish ball, 牛什, 車仔noodle, 燒賣粉果....... and so on. Most of hawkers sold different food and only a few of them sold the same kinds of products. All of them needed to pay "保護費" to the triad society members who controlled the area. However, no police would catch these hawkers and even no police would patrol in Kowloon Wall City. An interesting scenario was: many hawkers sold food in the opposite of the same street (Mei Tung Estate Road, the street was separted by a road) at Mei Tung Estate where the police (俗稱" 九王") would catch the hawkers who sold food there. The hawkers at Mei Tung Estate would rush off to the road and to evade from the catch at the same street at Kowloon City Wall side. These hawkers could only temporily placed their hawker stalls there and could not sell their food there since there was regulations set by the triad members. Once the police left, they went back to thier site to continue their business.
Thirdly, if nobody guided you to walk in, you will easily lose your way. Since I quite often went there to play with my friends and so I coulld walk in and out myself and no needed to have a guide. You would find many dentists (without proper registered) opened their clinics there since no law had been levied to control Kowloon Wall City owing to the historical problem.
Fourthly, there were many food production industries at Kowloon Wall City, e.g. Fish Ball, Cow Meat Ball and different kinds of meat balls (cuttlefish, pork meat,....), 燒賣粉果, 砵仔糕, 魚青 ( 煎釀三寶的raw materials), traditional Chinese cakes(花生糖, 香蕉糕....) and so on. You should remember that all these food production workshops were no licences and the hygenic situation was ......
Nextly, I recalled many rats, cockroaches and other insects were easily found in Kowloon Wall City, the hygenic situation was very poor. Besides that, many prostitutes worked nearly Carpenter Road, next to Kowloon City. All these women were old and most of them were drug addicts. I heard from my uncle that they usually charged $10 to $50 in price and their price depended on the ages, services and appearances.....
Finally, it was truth that many robberies, thefts and rapes happened at Kowloon Wall City. I heard from my uncle that a young, pretty lady who walked past Carpenter Road to go back to her residential address at Kowloon City in late 1970s, the lady was so unlucky that she was caught by the bad guys and they caught her back to a Stone House at Kowloon Wall City which was next to Carpenter Road and the lady was raped by those guys 
since police would not control or enforce their leagl authority at Kowloon Wall City. The pretty young lady was a victim under the historical problem. 
I was lucky that some of my classmates and my uncle were living there, so I had never meet any unlucky scenario. Besides that I am a boy, so I was not afraid of rape. Touch wood, I had never met any Homosexual Guys, otherwise ......
The above was my sharing for the Kowloon Wall City.
原帖由 George 於 8-4-2008 17:20 發表
Bro George,thank you for sharing.
1自來水是水源是井水,難怪很多居民使用公眾街喉取水
2雖是三不管地區,但仍須有統治者才能亂中有序,劃地為王者收保護費=政府收稅!
3比重慶森林更紊亂的迷城
4睇嚟我都食咗唔少made in Kln. Wall City嘅食品!!!!
原帖由 聰洛多薩比 於 29-3-2008 17:13 發表
原帖由 999 於 10-4-2008 15:46 發表
Bro 999,
You are so excellant that you can find so many photos to reflect the livings of Kowloon Wall City.
I recalled the public tap as shown in your picture. When I was young, my friends and I often washed our dirty hands or foot by turning on the public tap. If my memory was correct, there were two public taps built on the Tung Tau Estate Road.
Both taps should be demolished in 1990s. At that time, the tenants has successfully compromised with Water Supplies Dept to build pipe system and they could enjoy clear wate in lieu of bad smell water pumped from well.
[ 本帖最後由 George 於 11-4-2008 11:45 編輯 ]
原帖由 安佑 於 12-5-2008 07:44 發表
感覺如何!?
原帖由 任因玖 於 12-5-2008 23:14 發表
雖然我係香港出生和成長,但係一次又九龍城寨都未到過,因為我一向都係住係港島區,好少到九龍(除左尖沙咀和
旺角)...印象最深刻係D大人成日話到九龍城寨剝牙最抵 
睇黎都好多人對九龍城寨有唔同既睇法喎...
最想知就係...
當年城寨要拆...
政府點去安置d市民呀???
原帖由 聰洛多薩比 於 25-5-2008 21:14 發表
HK政府在宣布清拆九龍城寨的同時，亦決定向受清拆影響人士給予安置和發給特惠補償。因此，香港房屋委員會在1987 年1 月根據《房屋條例》成立了「九龍城寨清拆事宜特別委員會」(「特別委員會」)。特別委員會由公務員及非公務員的專業人士出任，負責監察清拆事宜以及制訂補償和安置方案等事宜。特別委員會下設評估覆核小組，負責覆核政府的補償建議是否合理和決定最終補償金額。如評估覆核小組的裁決與特別委員會已釐定的評估規則不符，則申索人或政府俱可就此向特別委員會提出上訴。
原帖由 999 於 26-5-2008 17:29 發表
咁即係當時既人一d就安置左去居屋...
一d就發特惠補償啦...
咁個時應該都有人唔滿意架...
有無示威遊行呀???
原帖由 聰洛多薩比 於 26-5-2008 17:58 發表
當然有人唔滿意,因很多安置到新界區做當時的開荒牛...........,但很多人也接受........
有十幾户仲同政府打官司tim!!!!
早期街喉 原帖由 akaichoi 於 27-3-2008 10:23 發表
原帖由 bulldog 於 5-2-2008 19:51 發表
原帖由 greenleaves 於 10-1-2009 21:14 發表
「九龍城脫衣舞」，即係無頭三條俘佬（無衫衭）。
第一次聽到,謝謝有趣的分享!
正寫係咪應該咁寫九龍砦城? 電影"城寨出来者"前段可有以前城寨外景
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